Justin Recla 00:00

When you help others, it comes back to you. That means the concept of Karma. It doesn’t matter what culture you’re from, it’s got a name for it, apply it and watch it unfold in your world.

Evan Le Clus 00:11

Hello, you are listening to The Dare to Scale Show with me, Evan.

Warsha Joshi 00:17

And me Warsha. This show is about all things scaling, scaling your business, your journey and you.

Evan Le Clus 00:26

You are here because you dare to dream dared to dream big. So, sit back and enjoy the conversation, or perhaps even join in.

Warsha Joshi 00:38

Hello, and welcome to a brand-new year 2022 and from everybody here at team Dare to Scale. I wish you a brilliant year in everything that you do. Aim high, aim for success. Knowing that happiness is always inside you recognize that and all the very best. Today also, we are welcoming our first guest of 2022. Today’s guest is very special. Justin Recla. Justin is an Army veteran and a former counter intelligence agent, Justin along with his amazing wife, Tonya and daughter, Neva Lee Recla are widely known as the first family of inspired personal development and they live their lives as a testament to the power of synergy. Oh my God, these words are brilliant. Synergy love and communion with God. Justin’s message is actually very simple. Help others, do things better, and have self-dominion in everything you do. On that note, have a brilliant new year, keep listening to this power packed episode. Because that’s what a brand-new year brings. Save dominion on yourself. Take control of your own life and on that note, I say, Justin, welcome to the show. We are so honored to have you with us.

Justin Recla 02:08

Well, thank you so much for having me. I love the fact that we can connect halfway around the globe and come together to talk about things that matter is

Evan Le Clus 02:18

It is totally and Justin, welcome to the show. Looking for a wonderful, wonderful conversation.

Justin Recla 02:23

This is gonna be fun, there’s gonna be a lot of fun.

Warsha Joshi 02:26

Justin, I know Evan has a very specific turn off that topic waiting in the wings for you but before that, please, we would love for you to tell us why do you do what you do today? Because I know that story and I would love for our listeners to hear that.

Justin Recla 02:44

Yeah, that’s a great question. I’ll give you the synopsis. I won’t give you the full story. I’ll just give you the Cliff Notes. My wife and I are both former counterintelligence agents with the US government. We were both agents and we both ended up teaching the counterintelligence Special Agents course where we were training new agents and what a lot of people have this idea what counter-intelligence is in their heads from movies, right, James Bond, and, you know, Jason Bourne, and all that kind of stuff but it’s actually much bigger than that, right? That’s a super sexy stuff, right? Yes, that kind of stuff happens in counter intel but a very, very few people in the industry actually get to partake in those types of missions and activities. My wife, however, was actually one of those she’s actually in the top 1% of Agents around the globe have actually got to testify in federal court on an actual espionage case. She was doing surveillance and investigations on people that were committing espionage against the United States selling secrets to our enemies, and so forth. So, she gets to see the inside of the courtroom and testify against an actual espionage suspect, which is very rare in the counterintelligence world. Because we have other purposes, we don’t want to catch the bad guys, we want to catch the bad guys that are running the bad guys. Right? But long story short, is we ended up teaching a counterintelligence Special Agent course and what a lot of people don’t understand about covering Intel is that in order to be an effective agent, you have to understand yourself. You have to understand people you have to understand how people think why they do the things that do why they do the things they don’t do. You have to understand everything from ego deconstruction, in group out group dynamics, fear, religion, faith, all of it, you have to take all of those things into consideration when so, you’re an agent, because in order to be effective, you have to understand people and you need to know how to get close to people, so they trust you and are willing to share information with you. Long story short military came to Tonya and asked her to write a class on critical thinking and she and I were the only to teach it because it was a top-secret class and we were dating at the time so they just fit perfectly so we were the only two to teach it and over a period of a year and a half, we taught it to about 4000 agents and in the midst of that, we recognize that the information that was brought forward was much bigger and it didn’t need it needed to be shared with the world, it needed to be shared with people that were doing good and not just reserved for the military, we knew that this was something big, something dramatic in something that was not seen in the regular personal developed world or the regular leadership world, it was something that can bind and bridge the gap between both the personal development, faith and leadership worlds and so we left, we got smacked over the head with a two by four when God evicted us from our ranch, because of the fire and we relocated, and we set out on our path to become entrepreneurs. Knowing that no one in my family, no one in Tonya’s family, generations back, no one was an entrepreneur, and no one had been business, we were the first in both of our families to do that. Scary as all heck, that’s for certain but we just kept listening, we just kept the guidance that was given to us the forward momentum that we kept going, we just kept moving forward and long story short, we started our own corporate counterintelligence business, which led into a coaching practice, because the corporate counterintelligence stuff was great, but we kept getting repeat clients that were asking the same questions, we were happy to take their money, but it wasn’t doing any good. It wasn’t providing the change. It wasn’t empowering them to make better decisions and look at things differently on their own and so, we started coaching, we started doing executive trainings, we started working with CEOs and COOs, to everything that we taught counter-intel, we started teaching and coaching walking people through and one thing led to another and that body of work evolved into what is now the body work under superpowers and superpower experts and it was it’s just kind of been our purpose, our mission and Tonya, got a calling good calling, probably about five, six years ago now and it was go awaken the masses and next thing, you know, we had a Podcast Network and now we’ve got 16 or 17. Good night, probably more than that now, probably 18 shows on the network. We’re ranked in the top 1.5% of podcasts globally and people are just loving the superpower stuff and the best news is, we’re done with the counterintelligence stuff, we’ve walked away from it completely, we actually sold that business to a good friend who’s more than qualified to carry on that legacy and do that work and help people in that space and now our goal and mission is just to help people stand in their gap, to move forward with purpose to help change the way things get done.

Warsha Joshi 07:50

Yeah. Justin, thank you for that brilliant story and we’ve heard this so many times, and we can listen to it every single time with the same enthusiasm because there is such a deep message over there and there is something that you said earlier about, what are some of the things that you learn as a counter intelligence agent, and you said, ego deconstruction, and I’m going to touch upon this a little bit later in the show, because I’m very keen on digging a little bit deeper in that but I have a different question before handing over the mic to Evan, why the name superpower?

Justin Recla 08:23

It’s funny, because when we first got started coaching, we would go to business conferences or whatnot, the word had gotten around that, Tonya is extremely powerful. She’s one of the most powerful impacts on the world. She understands people she can look at you and understand your story, understand who you are, how you see yourself in the world and everything that goes along with it, right. She’s extremely powerful in that in. We started off as personal power experts. Back when it was just Tonya and I, our platform now is a collaborative platform. We’ve got multiple coaches that work with us because we believe that not just one person has all the answers, right? I can’t have every single life experience. That’s why we have a team of coaches that can help people but personal power experts was fairly short lived because we realized that we didn’t know at the time but when Tonya got the calling for Hegel awaken the masses, it was clear it was guided from the place of do it under the name of superpowers, you have to show people that these things are real things that we’re talking about things like mind reading, empathy, intuition, psychic ability, chameleon ability, all these things that have this body of work has revealed that are just aspects of our human nature and who we are and what we do but just to wrap up the story about personal power experts. It was perfect timing because when we made that shift to superpowers and we just started walking that path with superpowers we later learned that Tony Robbins has got the trademark on personal power and so it had we gotten any bigger personal we were gonna be In the United copyright, so we quickly rebranded and have it slipped away from that sense, but she has the concept of superpowers is, is just that. What’s beautiful is that you see it in movies, right? You see it depicted in TV shows, I don’t know if you get it over where you’re at but not Netflix show called Manifest and they’re revealing everything that we teach everything that we talked about, they’re actually showing it visually in the TV shows, right? And they’re doing a great job in depicting it but ultimately, what it comes down to is what are superpowers. While we all know that we’ve got less, we use less than 10% of our brain’s capacity, right? We understand how our thoughts create things but there’s a couple of things that limit that. That’s our beliefs. That’s our stories. That’s the people we surround ourselves with, right? It’s the conversation of how the secret and thoughts become things have kind of been lost in the sauce. We help people deconstruct all of that so they can get to the truth of how it all works. So, they can go out and be a creator in the world and not a consumer and those are superpowers.

Evan Le Clus 11:12

Precisely. Justin, when we spoke once before, I remember you giving the analogy, you don’t take marriage advice from someone who’s never been married. So, it’s very much that mentorship space, but you’ve been there done that. It’s then teachable. totally love it. So, like you said, on superpower experts, there’s, I thought it was 14, okay, if it’s 18 podcasts there, I mean, extremely powerful and in fact, you do one reclamation, which is with your whole family, you Tanya and Neva and it’s just amazing in terms of all of the podcasts that are happening, because you also do a specific one about business, and that one, incorporating superpowers. So, in terms of all of that, what are the trends that you’re seeing just in the business world and entrepreneurship these days?

Justin Recla 11:59

It’s hopeful. First and foremost, it’s hopeful, because the old ways of doing business, the old guard, per se, is trying to just rip on to the old, right and it’s really disgusting, because people are realizing really quick, and I think COVID has a play in this and recognizing that, you know, when it comes down to it, we don’t really need a whole lot, right, we can actually get by staying at home we can get by not going out to eat right and I think it’s really shifted people’s perspective on what’s the goal, right? Because the old goal of business was to make as much money as you possibly can. Right and what I’m seeing what I’m hopeful for is that at least the people that I talked to, they’re more focused on impact and impact is probably the number one trend that I’m seeing and I know impacts always been, you know, part of the equation, but it always took a second seat to profitability and what I’m seeing is more and more entrepreneurs and business owners focusing on impact first, and then profitability and yes, absolutely. Business has to make money and so forth but people are realizing that that’s not the reason why you’re doing what you’re doing. Right. Yeah, you got to pay your bills, you have the business got to make money but one of the best pieces of advice I ever got along the way was if you want to be successful, focus on the impact, do it for the cheapest means possible, while still making a profit and we all know that businesses are selling their goods or their services for X amount of dollars but it’s you know, 5000 times what it’s actually costing them. There’s so much profit in there. Right? That is limiting the impact, right? We see it in the coaching world. Yeah, it’s huge in the coaching world, right? In order to coach with me, you got to pay me $10,000 a month. Okay, I get it, you’re probably worth that but your impact is what? One person at a time, right, which is why our collaborative program is 500 bucks a month, but you get a team of people to work with. Because we’re more focused on impact. We want to focus on the impact and I’m seeing that across the board. People more focused on impact, recognizing that he can’t take it with you. You’re gonna die broke anyways, right? Because who cares when you’re dead? And what’s really filling people is the fact that they know that they’re having an impact on people’s lives and ironically, here’s the funny part. When you focus on impact. The money just follows. It’s the lead, it’s universal. You focus on the impact the money, you focus on, how much can we charge, you limit your impact?

Evan Le Clus 14:56

I love that and I mean another way I think maybe if Part of the reframe that’s happened is, there’s been a reevaluation of values. Is that something that you’ve actually seen? Because money in and of itself, it’s a means it’s not an end goal. It’s just it’s a means and as you say, you do something else make more impact, obviously, the money does flow. Has there been a material shift in values?

Justin Recla 15:18

From what I’ve seen? Yeah, yes. For those that are focused on impact, I believe. So. There’s still a lot of people in the world that are still focused on that material thing, right? The whole fame and celebrity and all that kind of low frequency stuff. We experience life in terms of frequency, right, go out to a crowded bar. It’s noisy, it’s loud. People are drinking, and they’re talking about things that really don’t matter. That’s kind of a frequency right was Eleanor Roosevelt, right? That small minds talk about people, medium minds, they talk about in any large mind, big mind, people talk about ideas, right, and things to make the change and I think we’re seeing more people focus on the fact that you can actually create a whole new reality for yourself, if you just shift what frequency you’re surrounding yourself in and I think we people are recognizing that, no matter how much money they get, no matter how much material goods, the achieve require, it doesn’t matter. Because at the end of the day, wherever they go, there they are and we have to get good with ourselves and recognizing that we’re not victims to anything. In the spiritual realm, there are no victims, right? There are just opportunities for us to go Hmm, why did that happen? For me? Not why did it happen to me? And that mindset right there in looking at life? And why is this happening for me, is the game changer and I think more and more people are recognizing and seeing the power in that in recognizing that all this material world stuff, doesn’t matter what matters, most of the data that COVID showed us this is that connection, right? With our family, with our friends, who were we surrounding ourselves with, right? We got friends that are entrepreneurs, but their mindset is such that you know, they get it, there’s an excuse for everything and why they can’t create? Well, they’re not doing any internal work, because I’m seeing more and more people recognize that what’s really, the most valuable thing is to explore our own consciousness, and how we can remain creators in our world and not consumers. We don’t have to buy into any story that anyone tells us government or otherwise.

Evan Le Clus 17:34

And because that dovetail so beautifully into the series that we’ve been running, the Dare to Scale YOU to stop, look out, and even look after self, I think is definitely been missing for so long. Man, I think there’s been a rediscovery of that. I mean, we’ve definitely seen that too and how about because of isolation is sort of a funny question, because of the isolation piece and COVID and all the rest of it. Are you seeing that there’s a greater propensity now to help other people?

Justin Recla 18:01

And there’s still quite a bit of selfishness out there but in the business realm, absolutely. In the business realm, because the focus is more on impacting the business round, we’re seeing that a lot. In those that are doing the work that are wanting to break out of that old construct that old paradigm of consumerism, they’re focusing on wanting to help more, they just want to help they just want to contribute, how do they be part of something, right, we see this inside of our internship program, we got people that are part of our internship program that are just with us, because they want to be part but something they see the mission that we’re creating, they see the purpose of what we’re doing what we’re doing and they just want to be a part of that and its magic in that space, when you can connect with others for focused purpose, and that purpose being to help others. Right. It’s powerful. It really is.

Evan Le Clus 18:56

I have to ask an interesting question. So, it’s communicating the strategy. Literally, it’s like a business kind of a question. How has the strategy evolved? You know, for a superpower expert over the last sort of year or so and sort of what direction is it now taking?

Justin Recla 19:12

That’s a great question. You know, it’s ever evolving, because it’s not ours, right? To think that we know what’s gonna come next is kind of silly. Right? That’s ego, right thinking that I know what the divines plan for this is. They can I mean, we know of life, right? In an instant. Things can change and it’s staying in flow in the strategy is always the same. It’s authenticity, transparency and love. That’s the foundation of who we are and what we do and our purpose is, is we are creating and continue to create an environment where we can help pretty much anybody. Right? If they’re willing to come play, we got a place for them and I think more and more businesses are doing that because we You focus on hoping other people, it doesn’t feel good to turn people away. So, creating programs and creating opportunities that invites people in that may not be able to afford the $500 a month option, right? We’ve got free options. There’s so much free content on our website, or weekly ion series, which is essentially our weekly training or weekly messages in consciousness. They’re free, right? So, if somebody can’t afford to do the work with our coaches and dive into our curriculum, they can at least start by consuming the free material and doing the work for themselves. Right? That’s the strategy is to always make sure we’ve got someplace to put people regardless of what direction we’re walking.

Evan Le Clus 20:45

Yeah, and one of the really powerful tenants that you work with is that concept of stewardship. Tell us a little bit about that, and how that works with abundance.

Justin Recla 20:55

So, this is one of my favorite conversations that as of late, is in this goes back to money, right? This goes back to the mindset around money in recognizing that, first and foremost, your business is not yours. At any point in time, life can change, somebody can come in, take it from you, God can go, you’re done here. I know, I’ve experienced that and you’re done. Right and the goal is not to get in and make as much money as possible. For the entrepreneur. It’s okay, what’s in it for me? What am I learning? How am I growing? What am I seeing here? Right? Because when you’re in that business position, you’re not an employee looking up, you’re looking from the top out right now and looking across the horizon. So what’s in it for me, so the concept of stewardship is just that you have to be a good steward of your business, you have to be a good steward of your money and the way abundance works is, we know from a money perspective, we know that money is energy, it’s just a tool, right? lower frequency mindset will tell, you know, it’s cash, it’s viable, I can hold it, and I can buy things within, it’s limited because I work 2080 hours a year, and I only make so much money because that’s the box that they fit in but in the business and entrepreneur world, we know that all you have to do is come up with a new idea and take it create it out somewhere else, you know, put it out here, and it brings in more money, come up with another idea put out here and it brings in more money where stewardship gets lost on people is, well, I put money in there and I put money into this investment, and it returned a whole lot more money for me. Right? That’s only going to get you so far. Yeah, it’s only ever going to get you so far, because you can only acquire so much money, right? I mean, how many billionaires you know, I know a couple that they’re miserable in their life. They’re billionaires, right? Yet, they’re still struggling in their relationships, they’re still struggling in their parenting, and they’re still struggling in identifying who they are in the world. Because they’re focused on making more money, right and then we feed you when you’re hoarding money and put it in your bank account that only feeds you and while yet that’s great, now, you want to make more, help others. When you take the money that you have, that God’s giving you that the universe is providing you, and you help others, it just naturally comes back to you tenfold and this is the way it works. That’s the way abundance works, right? It’s the story in the Bible of the three talents, right? The three talents were given to money and told to go duplicate it and one doubled it, one almost doubled it and one buried it and came back and say here you go. Here’s the one that you gave me back and he didn’t do anything with it. He couldn’t help himself with it. Right but he didn’t help others it was well, and when we’re given something, right, and have gratitude for what we have, and use that to help others. Abundance just returns it tenfold. Like I said, it’s just the way it works universal law. Anybody that’s looked at the concept of thoughts become things, the secret in examining all it pulled off all the materialism and capitalism got thrown into those ideas, and looked at the truth underneath it all. That’s what it’s talking about is that stewardship. When you help others, it comes back to you. I mean, it’s the concept of Karma, right? It doesn’t matter what culture you’re from, it’s got a name for it, apply it and watch it unfold in your world.

Warsha Joshi 24:38

It’s exactly what you said. It doesn’t matter where or what you practice, what religion you practice what you believe in. It’s got a name for every culture has a name for it, because that’s the more you give the more you get, whether it is money, whether it is good deeds, whether it is just extend a hand and there is something and I loved it Everything that you spoke about so far, there’s a concept that both Evan and I are researching quite a bit into, because the aim is to finish the book that we have already started writing, it’s all about the buck, everybody talks about the buck and most people behave in three ways that we’re researching in. For a lot of people, the behavior is centered around the buck has stopped for me. So, I’m always chasing the buck, and that they start from that scarcity mindset. Or for some people, the buck stops with me, I’m leading from the front and the warrior and for very few, it really is where the buck flows through them. It doesn’t stop at them, they’re not chasing after it actually flows through them, to enrich the community around them to bring up people around them. So, is there a right or wrong? Maybe not? With it, just something to highlight is like, so where do you fit in today? And what is it that you are after? So, it’s just everything that you said, Justin, thank you for all those words, because it really highlighted that we are on the right track and I’m going to be coming back to you for some more. Before I hand it back to Evan, I had to jump in and talk about this. Because you said something earlier, what has something happened for me or to me? And I know Evan, he always So, talks about this and I’m surprised he didn’t jump in and remark on that. For a lot of people out there. They don’t know what that even means. So, what do you mean when you say that?

Justin Recla 26:31

That’s great question. It’s when you have present moment awareness when you’re in exploration of your own consciousness, which I believe is the only goal and the meaning of life is to explore our own consciousness and our as it relates to the divine and the energy that we share with others. That’s the only worthwhile venture, in my experience, everything else is just a mechanism to allow for that to happen in the form of experience, when you understand that, and you can seek that, or you desire that and you want that for yourself. You can look out across the world, or even start with yourself and look internally and recognize that everything that we experience is a choice. How we experience it, is a choice and the truth of the matter is, is that most of the world is stuck in some level of suffering. Some hell loop that they’ve created for themselves, in their version of reality, that is just not true. It’s not but they’ve believed it their entire life. generationally been passed down from father to son, son, the daughter, well, yeah, all of it, right, it has been passed down and that story has been so believed that it is literally epi genetics at this point, it’s ingrained in our DNA to believe that we are less than, and that life is suffering at some point and when I say suffering, it’s fear. Right? And depending on what level of fear you have in life, or believe about yourself, I believe about your reality determines the level of suffering in which you’re creating, right? And it’s difficult to see when you’re in the box, right? Because the box is the container of the story and belief of who you think you are in the world and everybody around you is telling you, yep, you’re in that box, you’re in that box, I see you’re suffering, and I’m going to suffer with you. Right but you have to be willing to step outside of that. Because everything that happens to you, wherever you’re at whatever frequency you exist, that it’s happening to you for a reason. It’s literally the divine’s way of tapping on your shoulder, saying here is a lesson for you. What are you going to do with it? Are you going to choose fear and continue to suffer? Or are you going to take some self-dominion and ownership in your part of it? Yes, things happen in life but they happen for a reason and we get to choose how we respond to a situation and if we choose fear in suffering, Woe is me. Oh, look at all these bad things that happen, then that’s who we are but if we look at the things that happen to us or happen for us, right, and go, oh, wow, do I like that outcome? No, I don’t like that outcome. What can I do differently? So, this doesn’t happen again, that self-dominion, but when we don’t do anything or don’t choose anything and just accept the consequences, the whatever the experience is, then we remain stuck in that lower frequency and so Everything that happens to us is for a reason. It’s designed to grow us. Right? And I know the immediate question is, okay, what about the people in the world that are starving? They don’t have food? Right? Do they have a choice? Absolutely. It doesn’t change their circumstance, right? But how they approach it, how they go through it. Right? Which is why you can see images of kids in countries that are starving, and they haven’t had enough food, but they’re dancing. They’re laughing, right? Their experience of it is something different but yet, we are not because we got full bellies, we look at that and go, Oh, it’s suffering? Well, that means we are contributing to keeping them stuck in that environment and if we really want to do something about that experience in helping people out of it, then as business owners, as human beings as entrepreneurs, that we have an obligation to help lift them up out of it and it’s all various levels, all various levels, right? As to where we’re at and yes, and yes, even in the consciousness conversation, I get triggered still. fear comes up, right? It doesn’t ever go away. Right? My one of my favorite movie quotes from Dr. Strange, the ancient one, right? We never get rid of our demons, we only learned to live above them. Right? And are we going to feed them? Or are we going to look down and go? Yep, I see you. Not going back down there. Right.

Evan Le Clus 31:27

Yeah. Love it. Absolutely. Love it.

Justin Recla 31:28

That’s why is it happening for us?

Evan Le Clus 31:31

Yeah, it’s interesting. One of the things we’re doing for ourselves as we’re intermittent fasting at the moment, and it’s interesting, when you strip away emotion, you can then see the facts for what they are and that’s where you can make that clear distinction about what’s happening for me, and not to me. I mean, I know many years back, I used to sometimes dwell on what’s happening, I boohoo what’s happening to me and sometimes we like to wallow in the emotion, you strip away the emotion, and it’s just bare facts and suddenly, the whole meaning the whole, everything is different. With intermittent fasting. The point with that is emotional attachment to food, right? And even looking at starving people, when you’re looking at it from Oh, I’m, I enjoy my food and I’m looking at that, oh, that must be terrible for them. You know, you’re projecting a value that or a feeling that is central to yourself, and not necessarily for them. So, it’s really, really fascinating and emotions. Definitely, that’s sort of the key there.

Justin Recla 32:24

Well, it is that emotion piece is where we get caught up in this is a really big part of our body of work is understanding emotions and how emotions work is that oftentimes we want to identify as the emotion, you are not your emotion. Emotions are just a tool to let you know what’s going on in your environment and if it doesn’t feel good, do something different.

Evan Le Clus 32:49

Exactly. So, it’s a signal. It’s not being love it! Yep. Justin, just as we move into the tail end of the episode, I want to touch on some sort of best practices for the entrepreneur as they daring to scale themselves. One of the very big pieces you talk about is recovery. What does that mean to you? And how do you sort of practice that in your household?

Justin Recla 33:12

So, our household unique, unique in the sense that we’re 24/7 family have been since Neva was two. we’ve strayed from that one time. It didn’t go well. We took that as a sign of like, yep, that’s not what we’re supposed to do. So, Neva has been homeschooled her entire life. She’s been in business. Since she was two, she spoke in front of 2000 people on a great large keynote, when she at the age of seven. You know, she’s interviewed celebrities like Joe Polish, Sears, and some really cool people what we go full time really 24/7. So, for us recovery is recognizing that you don’t have to go Go, go, go, go go go, right. Because for the entrepreneur, for business owner, it’s like, Well, I gotta get done. It’s got to happen, I got to make it happen. I got to do this, I gotta do this. Well, that comes at a cost, if you have family comes at a cost of your own mental wellbeing and so, recovery is taking time to unplug and knowing that everything has a container and setting those containers, setting rules for those containers and if it’s not time for that container, stepping away for it and not bring back something into the conversation. Unless it’s time for that container again and so for us, it’s you know, Saturdays are spiritual Saturdays. Because we’re a 24/7 family. We’re always in each other’s space but Saturday’s my space is my space, Tonya’s spaces  is Tonia space, Neva spaces is Neva’s space and we can invite each other into Hey, would you like to join me for a cup of coffee or, Hey, would you like to do this with me? But there’s no expectation. There’s no just it’s our time to be with ourselves to study to commune with God to whatever that is for us that we need to release process through and let go of any energies that may have built up and let go of it and, and examine it. Why did I see that? When this happened? Why did I say something that That’s right, and reflecting on that, and taking that in exploring that for ourselves, rather than just do, do, do, do, do, do right, which I think is a lot. It’s something that business owners get caught up in, and entrepreneurs get caught up in really, really easy and we have to recognize that it can only go so far on drained batteries and you have to take that time to reconnect with who you are, what your purpose is, and make sure that you’ve got yourself in alignment with the frequency in which you say you want to create.

Evan Le Clus 35:52

And for the entrepreneurs out there, are there any sort of tips on like a daily sort of routine? I mean, for example, social media, when do you turn that off? Like to think turn that distraction off

Justin Recla 36:04

Awesome, so yeah, first off, when you turn it off, never get on it? It’s a hole, black hole is literally a black hole, I mean, all you have to do is take a look at what shows up on your feed, it doesn’t matter what programming you are, is there anybody on social media is promoting anything good? Yeah, entrepreneurs are trying, right? We’re doing our best, right but especially in the world that we live in now, like social media, with all the big corporation’s censorship, and all that kind of stuff. You know, if you’re advertising on those platforms, you’re contributing to something that you say that you don’t want, if you believe in, you’re against corporate censorship, right? So, but if we’re advertising with them, so for us, it’s get off of social media, yes, you need to have a presence there. Right. Or you shouldn’t have a presence there. We just now got back on Facebook, because we got censored, we had a big following, they shut us down and we’re just now tiptoeing back in there, but we’re not building there. It’s just a social proof aspect. For us, we’re having a revenue, recreate, but turn it off, you don’t need social media, you’re not gonna find what you’re looking for there. Rather, the best practice that you can do is kill social media. Don’t go there. You don’t need to have your team go there. Have your social media manager, go there and then encourage them not to stay on it, when they’re off shift, make sure that they’re only they’re doing what they need to post, but then get off, get off social media for themselves. Take time. I don’t typically start my day; I get up early for you guys.

Evan Le Clus 37:32

And we totally appreciate that.

Justin Recla 37:33

This is good, right? Yes, I typically don’t start my quote, unquote, workday, I started a half hour early, not a big deal and I love you guys, you guys are amazing and doing some great stuff in the world. So, I’m more than happy to be here but take your time, you don’t have to jump into the workday, the moment you wake up, right? Take the morning to do some reflection on the previous day. Is there anything we had to puzzle through, right, because if you don’t address it, then the energies from the previous day are now going to carry forward into that day and they’re just going to build and you can’t create from that space. If you started day, or you didn’t close up the previous day, if there was any constriction, if there was any angst, if there was any fear, if there was any, I should have done this, instead of that right? Take the morning to reflect for yourself. So, you can clear that and then tackle the day for whatever it’s going to bring from that place. You don’t have to carry it, it’s okay to set down.

Evan Le Clus 38:30

And just one sort of final question. One of the big pieces in your space is gratitude and can you talk a little bit about that and how that helps with sort of the evolution and the innovation for the entrepreneur.

Justin Recla 38:43

Gratitude is the magic sauce of all things. It really is. Gratitude is the secret to unlocking abundance in your world. Because when you can have gratitude for everything that you have, everything you have, the universe will give you more. Because if you’re not satisfied with what you got now, what makes you think you’re going to be satisfied if you have more and that comes from understanding yourself. That comes from understanding that I love the fact the fact that you guys are doing that intermittent fasting, right? That’s gratitude for the fact that wow, I don’t actually have to eat and because I’ve got food, I can appreciate the food that I do have. I did a seven-day water fasts. All I did for seven days straight. I did nothing but water and coffee. Right? And no food, no salt, no nothing and it was it was a spiritual experience. I mean, it really was and gratitude is just that it’s taking a look at what you have in your life and recognizing that at the end of the day, you really don’t need much. You’re probably better off than 99% of the rest of the world and if you want more, you have to appreciate what you have Right, and get rid of the things that no longer serve you. So, you can have gratitude for something for what it did for you but then lovingly release it. If it’s no longer serving you kit, gratitude is the magic sauce to everything.

Evan Le Clus 40:15

Love it. That’s how we feel about it too.

Justin Recla 40:17

It’s good stuff.

Warsha Joshi 40:18

Totally is an I love what you said. It’s what’s important is, if it doesn’t work for you gracefully release it. There’s very little point in holding on to it with emotions that don’t belong over there. Yeah, brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. Justin, there was one thing that I wanted to touch upon which I said I will and I think I’m going to take the liberty and ask for another episode, because I think that topic deserves an episode on its own, which is ego deconstruction, at some point, would you please, as you already are giving your time so generously? Would you please come back and join us again, because that is something that is so required in the entrepreneurial community?

Justin Recla 41:01

Absolutely. So, Neely will make it happen.

Warsha Joshi 41:05

Okay, you are our favorite person in this whole world already and you’ve just become the star of DTS, thank you. Because that’s something that is almost like a pet project for Evan and me the amount of ownership and the amount of emotional attachment, the ego attachment on the business that a lot of entrepreneur’s places is not right, because as you said earlier, the business is not yours, you’re the steward of that business and ego doesn’t belong over their ego needs to be checked at the door or released forever. Because to us, that is the biggest keys to success in anything that you do. So that deserves an episode on its own. Do you agree?

Justin Recla 41:46

Absolutely. I think its ego deconstruction is an understanding what it is what it’s not what it does, what it will do for your business is huge. I think it’s something that as a leader, you have to understand if you’re really going to make an impact and be working with others, you have to get out of the way. First, you have to understand your own ego, and who you are, what makes you tick, why you do the things you do and yeah, that’s that is definitely another conversation and I look forward to having it with you.

Evan Le Clus 42:14

Totally. Justin, thank you very, very much for your time this morning and it was early for you and we’d totally appreciate you getting up early for us. The listeners absolutely will have a ball with all the information that you’ve shared. Where’s the best place for them to connect with you?

Justin Recla 42:28

best and easiest way to connect with us is our website, superpower experts.com. Or even more exciting, we’ll go to the App Store, either Android or Apple and download the app, look for the superpower net. You can stream all of our shows on there, you can explore the superpower world there as well. Take a look and just come play and just start watching. We tell people just listen to one episode a day and that will pick a show. Listen to one episode a day and the conversations and the frequency in which they are happening will raise your frequency and how you’re operating one a day. It’ll shift you into a whole new space.

Evan Le Clus 43:05

It’s like meditation on steroids. That’s it. Wonderful. We’re going to post the links in the show notes, obviously with the transcription and stuff as well. Justin, again, thank you so much for your time. It’s been an absolute blast and happy new year to all of our listeners from us you from DTS. Have a great year ahead.

Justin Recla 43:24

Take care all.

Warsha Joshi 43:27

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Evan Le Clus 43:38

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